Philosophical point

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (VinceC) — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:46:35 GMT

An important aspect of the non-Nikon lenses (and, to a lesser extent, bodies) is that they fill gaps in the system, making Nikons more useful or more accessible overall.

The rangefinder-era Zunow 50/1.1 pushed the envelope of lens design and was for a time the fastest Nikon-compatible lens available.

More typically, non-Nikkor lenses allow people on a budget to make full use of the Nikon system. For many years now, I've ownded an used a lowly Vivitar 19mm f/3.8 in...

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (JonRis) — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:05:39 GMT

Brian;
I think your way of experimenting with older lenses and adapting them for Nikon is very interesting... I have had great fun with the Helios 103 you adjusted and I have also come to like the Jupier 35 mm lens so my focus on only Nikon stuff has a few but very important exceptions! I also have a few Voigtländer lenses (and an order for the new Zeiss 50 mm lens) for my Nikon RF´s which...

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (nikon61352) — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:18:16 GMT

I like adapting lenses that were not intended to work on Nikon RF cameras.

The Industar 61L is a good example- very different lens than anything else available for a Nikon RF, made in LTM and 42mm Universal mount only. Very sharp, Tessar formula lens using low-dispersion glass.

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (JonRis) — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:13:20 GMT

From an intellectual perspective I think you need to look at the "Nikon system" i.e. the way it has been designed with the various hardware and software components incl the things we see like the S & F-mounts and the things we do not see like the software connections for the AFS or VR technology on the more modern models. So as long at it is the Nikon system it is "Nikon" I think and that may include a Sigma lens and/or a Fuiji body!

From a more personal...

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (LovemyNikons) — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:36:22 GMT

OK, here is my two cents worth. (It's exact value). I used to think that camera bodies are like fishing reels. Reels only hold the line and the rod does all of the work. I thought of camera bodies as film holders with the lenses the most important factor. I've had to modify that view with the new cameras. Motor drives, matrix metering, etc., have come to be very important to the shot, whereas we've all seen photos made with lesser lenses that became interesting due to the flaws....

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (rbsinto) — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:27:35 GMT

OK
Check out the Pictures Talk gallery.
If there aren't too many rotten fruits and vegetables tossed my way, I'll post more.

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (dave lackey) — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:36:45 GMT

`Gotta agree here...
If the gear used is interchangeable within the Nikon system...post the photos!!!

Heck, there are good lenses that work with Nikon that I would personally be interested in as well.

Robert, let 'er rip!

Best,

dave

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (VinceC) — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:36:44 GMT

I don't have a problem necessarily with an aftermarket lens on an aftermarket body, so long as it's part of, or interchangeable with, the Nikon system. That's one of the things I like about Nikon -- it borrows from other systems but refines them; it is influential enough that aftermarket manufacturers want to contribute to the system; and it remains interchangeable over decades. An R2S with a VC-S lens is part of the Nikon RF legacy. A Russian Nikon F-mount Kiev SLR with a Vivitar...

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (jonmanjiro) — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:09:50 GMT

rbsinto wrote:
Having said that, I've got lots of shots taken with my Nikon cameras and Samyang/Tokina/Tamron/Sigma/Vivitar lenses over the last thirty years that I'd love to post. So if there are no objections......

No objections here! Looking forward to seeing some photos, Robert.

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (rbsinto) — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:15:36 GMT

Jon,
I agree, however I'd be inclined to draw the line at either the bodies or lenses being Nikon, if the Forum is to retain a Nikon theme. Otherwise it simply becomes another generic photo forum.
Having said that, I've got lots of shots taken with my Nikon cameras and Samyang/Tokina/Tamron/Sigma/Vivitar lenses over the last thirty years that I'd love to post. So if there are no objections......

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (jonmanjiro) — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:20:18 GMT

The fisheye photos I posted in another thread were taken with a Tokina fisheye zoom on a D70

I don't have a problem if either the body or the lens used was a Nikon. Though I think we're getting into a grey area if, for example, the body was an S-mount Bessa R2S and the lens was an S-mount Voigtlander, or the body was an F-mount Kenko and the lens was an F-mount Sigma or something. But...

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (rbsinto) — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:26:21 GMT

Kiu,
I agree that the lens is vastly more important than the body. Every time.
But I was especially interested in the question of posting images here that were shot with third-party lenses on Nikon bodies. A lot of my street photography is done with a Samyang 18~28, and Tamron 35~105 zooms, and while I'd like to post many of the photos shot with them, I won't if that is somehow construed as "cheating" or unacceptable on a themed site such as this, or whatever by...

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (NIKON KIU) — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:09:59 GMT

Here is my thought.
Nippon Kogaku was an optical company,nikon's heritage is optics.
In my opinion, Nikkors have more Nikon behind them than Nikon cameras do!
But, I am not picky. I like to see all three situations discussed.

I am pretty sure most agree that the lens is more important than the camera body.

Kiu

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (rbsinto) — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:53:07 GMT

Or perhaps a Nikon camera strap?
Seriously, will I ever get an answer to my question?

Re: Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (NIKON KIU) — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:20:02 GMT

A Nikon filter will do

Kiu

Philosophical point

feeds@yuku.com (rbsinto) — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:02:14 GMT

Since my question regarding posting photos taken using third-party lenses didn't get even a single reply, I'll pose a philosophical question that may get me the answer I was looking for.
What is the minimum equipment requirement to claim a photo was taken with Nikon equipment?
1)Nikon body and lens,
2) Nikon body and third party lens,
3) Nikon lens with mount modified for use on another brand body.
Or put another way, which is more important, the body or the...